Founders #233 · · 18 books

Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Max Levchin (PayPal)

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The book this episode covers

  1. The Founders

    Jimmy Soni · Reading rank 67 · in 13 other episodes

    David calls the book incredible while holding his advance copy.

    Dedicated episode · Explicit praise · Founder theme

Books David recommends along the way

  1. Elon Musk

    Ashlee Vance · Reading rank 34 · in 9 other episodes

    David references a memorable line from Ashlee Vance's Musk biography about Musk's pain tolerance during the 2008 crises at Tesla and SpaceX.

    Founder theme

  2. A Mind at Play

    Jimmy Soni and Rob Goodman · Reading rank 41 · in 10 other episodes

    David calls Jimmy Soni's Claude Shannon biography one of the best biographies he has read.

    Cross-episode reference · Explicit praise

  3. My Life and Work

    Henry Ford with Samuel Crowther · Reading rank 42 · in 7 other episodes

    David invokes Ford's autobiography to support the theme that new ventures may need unconventional people rather than committed experts.

    Founder theme

  4. Liftoff

    Eric Berger · Reading rank 53 · in 11 other episodes

    Cross-episode reference

  5. Return to the Little Kingdom

    Michael Moritz · Reading rank 54 · in 14 other episodes

    Cross-episode reference

  6. Finding the Next Steve Jobs

    Nolan Bushnell and Gene Stone · Reading rank 68 · in 11 other episodes

    David uses the creative-arrogance passage as a lens for PayPal's founders.

    Cross-episode reference · Founder theme

  7. Insanely Simple

    Ken Segall · Reading rank 86 · in 11 other episodes

    Cross-episode reference

  8. There's No Speed Limit

    Derek Sivers · Reading rank 206 · in 6 other episodes

    David applies Derek Sivers's There's No Speed Limit to X.com's rapid turnaround, using its four-month transformation to illustrate moving faster than the standard pace.

    Cross-episode reference · Founder theme

  9. Do Things That Don't Scale

    Paul Graham · Reading rank 346 · in 5 other episodes

    David applies Graham's early-stage unscalable-work principle to PayPal's manual restaurant research.

    Founder theme

  10. The Mythical Man-Month

    Frederick P. Brooks Jr. · Reading rank 404 · in 2 other episodes

    David identifies Brooks's work before quoting its communication-overhead principle and applying it to the difficulty of coordinating PayPal's growing engineering team.

    Founder theme

Also mentioned

  1. Creativity, Inc.

    Ed Catmull with Amy Wallace · Reading rank 17 · in 19 other episodes

  2. Confessions of an Advertising Man

    David Ogilvy · Reading rank 20 · in 23 other episodes

  3. Driven from Within

    Michael Jordan · Reading rank 85 · in 12 other episodes

    David attributes Michael Jordan's hard-but-fair operating standard to his autobiography.

    Founder theme

  4. Benjamin Franklin

    Walter Isaacson · Reading rank 162 · in 8 other episodes

    David reads a passage from Isaacson's Franklin biography about nonconformist family influence and applies it as a lesson to the early PayPal team.

    Founder theme

  5. The Hard Thing About Hard Things

    Ben Horowitz · Reading rank 331 · in 4 other episodes

    David compares Ken Howery's reaction to Peter Thiel with Ben Horowitz's reaction to Marc Andreessen as described in The Hard Thing About Hard Things.

    Founder theme

  6. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

    Douglas Adams · Reading rank 472

    David explains that the novel soothed a young Elon Musk's existential worries by suggesting that framing the right question can matter as much as finding the answer.

    Founder theme

  7. Steve Jobs

    Paul Sen · Watch & Listen · in 3 other episodes

    David applies Jobs's rock-tumbler metaphor from Steve Jobs: The Lost Interview to teams of talented people whose friction and collaboration polish both their ideas and one another.

    Founder theme

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